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Con gran indignación leí un artículo sobre este hombre, si es que puede llamárselo de esta manera. Decía que este tipo obligó a George a firmar autógrafos cuando él estaba en su lecho de muerte. Que llevó a su hijo para que tocara la guitarra delante de Hari y después hizo que se la firmara. Como George no podía, el médico tomó su mano y se la hizo autografiar de todos modos. Por si fuera poco, habló con la prensa y contó intimidades de Hari y aprovechó para promocionar su clínica.
No tengo palabras para describir cómo me sentí al leer esto. :'(
¡Me da tremenda bronca que George haya tenido que pasar por algo así! ¡Me da bronca que haya gente tan oportunista, tan carente de sentimientos...! Realmente, no tengo palabras... :@
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Perdon por la palabra, pero FUCKER!!!

Que desgraciado! Yo no se que le haria si lo tuviera enfrente. Eso me indigna y muchisimo. :@ :@ :@ :@
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No sabia de esta noticia y por lo que leo es del 2004

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Alguien sabe como acabo todo? De por sí repugnante la acción de ese seudomédico :@ :@ :@
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La vida da vueltas y tarde o temprano ese desgraciado tendrá su castigo, eso no se hace con nadie, es una total falta de ética y humanidad, basura!
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que desgraciado, no puedo creer cuanta maldada hay en un (y perdonen ustedes) un hijo de mala leche que es ese sujeto, es un animal... pobre de george, con lo bueno que era, no merecía pasar sus últimos momentos en semejante infamia... :S
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Esto es indignante, ese tipo es un desgraciado, oportunista, hijo de @/&%.*+!$.

No es posible que exista alguién tan desgraciado, estoy que reviento :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@

Ya las pagará doble el muy maldito.
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viriball13 escribió:Esto es indignante, ese tipo es un desgraciado, oportunista, hijo de @/&%.*+!$.

No es posible que exista alguién tan desgraciado, estoy que reviento :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@

Ya las pagará doble el muy maldito.
Pero bien ke komprarian la guitarrraaaa 8D
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SubmarinoAmarillo escribió:
viriball13 escribió:Esto es indignante, ese tipo es un desgraciado, oportunista, hijo de @/&%.*+!$.

No es posible que exista alguién tan desgraciado, estoy que reviento :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@

Ya las pagará doble el muy maldito.
Pero bien ke komprarian la guitarrraaaa 8D
Si fue firmada de esa manera por supuesto que no, antes que admirarlos los respeto :(
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Que hijo de la...... &%/*#
aaaaaaarww estoy que reviento ¬¬


pero lo va a pagar, el karma (justicia divina, whatever) existe señoras y señores...

pagara, pagara...
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como le ha podido hacer eso a George, no se lo merecia, y menos si esta a punto de morirse :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

que mala sangre tiene ese medicucho, estupido, oportunista, abuson. :@ :@ :@ :@ :@

que cruel, hacerle eso al pobre George, que el pobre no podia defenderse. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

que asco de persona. :#
George, estas en mi pensamiento y en mi corazon. Gracias por existir y llenar mi mundo de luz. Viviras en mi corazon hasta el fin de los tiempos.
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un verdadero hijo de p#$%@, si mis palabras estan muy desubicadas, que el mod me las borre, comprendo, pero la verdad son las palabras que merece esa especie de ser humano que le decian "medico"
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Creo que me quedé corta con lo que puse acerca de ese "pseudo médico" :@ No hace bien reprimir los sentimientos... y me uno a todos ustedes cuando dicen que es un hijo de p... (aún así seguimos quedándonos cortos) :'(
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En la Fiesta Beatle de este viernes 18, podemos poner un aviso al lado de los inodoros que diga: "Deposite aqui a Gilbert Lederman" XD


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Father Mckenzie escribió:En la Fiesta Beatle de este viernes 18, podemos poner un aviso al lado de los inodoros que diga: "Deposite aqui a Gilbert Lederman" XD
BUEEEENA!!! XD XD XD

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Father Mckenzie escribió:En la Fiesta Beatle de este viernes 18, podemos poner un aviso al lado de los inodoros que diga: "Deposite aqui a Gilbert Lederman" XD


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Father Mckenzie escribió:En la Fiesta Beatle de este viernes 18, podemos poner un aviso al lado de los inodoros que diga: "Deposite aqui a Gilbert Lederman"
¡¡¡Qué grande, Father Mckenzie!!! ;)
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Beatle_lucy escribió:como le ha podido hacer eso a George, no se lo merecia, y menos si esta a punto de morirse :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

que mala sangre tiene ese medicucho, estupido, oportunista, abuson. :@ :@ :@ :@ :@

que cruel, hacerle eso al pobre George, que el pobre no podia defenderse. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

que asco de persona. :#
k falta de humanidad, k falta de escrupulos :(

Hijo de toda su rechin.... madre

ese cavernivola estupido deberian de kitarle su cedula profesional, por la falta de etica a ese cab... mal nacido, traumado, basura, escoria, me dan ganas de vomtar :#

Pero la va a pagar el cab.. 8(

Imaginense cuantas cosas no habra hecho esta porkeria de persona 8( 8( 8(
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Un tipo como los muchos que abundan en el mundo :S, OPORTUNISTA, MISERABLE E INSENSIBLE, pero si habria que verle la cara al maldito y repugnante hombre para deformarsela :@

Pero como este mundo oculta todo, no debe ser motivo de alarma que en el futuro, esa guitarra autografiada forzosamente sea martilleada en más de un millón de doláres :S
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aushhh que feo (U)... mi pobre Geo :'( :'( :'(
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Como ya se ha visto la fama tiene su lado bueno y su lado oscuro y en el caso de los Beatles es algo que los persigue hasta su muerte, yo no le deseo nada malo a este medico, sino que reflexione el mal que hizo, y las consecuencias que esto conlleva, por ejemplo el ser odiado y despreciado por un numero de personas. Ademas del dolor que le causo a la familia de George. Y si alguien adquiere o adquirió esa guitarra, pues también esta aceptando conducta tan deplorable .
Solo espero que esto sirva de ejemplo para aquellos que se encuentren en la situación de atender a alguien famoso o una persona del común ( por así decirlo) en su lecho de muerte y lo trate con todo el respeto y la ética que un profesional debe tener hacia un ser humano.
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dlam escribió:Como ya se ha visto la fama tiene su lado bueno y su lado oscuro y en el caso de los Beatles es algo que los persigue hasta su muerte, yo no le deseo nada malo a este medico
Yo tampoco le deseo nada, aunque no puedo evitar sentir dolor e impotencia al saber por todo lo que tuvo que pasar George. Aún recuerdo cuando leí el artículo... Estaba en un locutorio, así que no me quedó otra que reprimir mis emociones. Una vez en casa, escuchando sus canciones y rememorando esta situación, se me cayeron un par de lágrimas :(
Pero dicen que todo vuelve. Así que la vida seguramente se encargará de cobrar todo el mal hecho por Gilbert Lederman.
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Se supone que ambas partes llegaron a un acuerdo, aunque considero que Lederman salió ganando... sucede que la familia Harrison le intercambió la guitarra autografiada por otra guitarra sin autografiar... Lederman tuvo que pagar una multa de 5mil dólares...

Esto fue lo que comentó el mismo Nick Garaufis, el juez que vio el caso: "George Harrison's music spoke to the heart and soul of my generation, I am grateful that the parties have reached an agreement that not only resolves the nascent litigation, but, even more significantly, preserves the dignity and protects the privacy of all concerned."

¿Quieren sus datos? 8D

Gilbert Lederman, MD
Internal Medicine, Medical Oncology, Radiation Oncology
Male - 28 years experience

Nalitt Institute For Cancer
475 Seaview Ave
Staten Island, NY
10305

Phone: (718) 226-8862
Fax: (718) 226-8586

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edical Center
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A death bed autograph
Jan 7 2004 By Matt Slater, Echo Reporter

CLAIMS that a doctor forced dying ex-Beatle George Harrison to autograph a guitar are at the centre of a bitter legal action.

The lawsuit, filed in New York, says the incident happened just a fortnight before he died of cancer. It alleges Dr Gilbert Lederman grabbed Harrison's hand and helped him sign the instrument even after he refused.

The action, being taken by the star's estate, including wife Olivia, includes the claim that George said: "I do not even know if I know how to spell my name any more".

But the lawsuit then says Dr Lederman replied: "Come on, you can do this," and held Harrison's hand even though he was in "obvious discomfort".

The estate wants to take the guitar and two cards it claims Harrison signed as he was treated by Dr Lederman, an expert in treating large tumours.

Harrison died in November 2001 after battling lung cancer and a brain tumour.

But Dr Lederman claims Harrison agreed to the autographs and said he has no intention of selling the guitar.

His lawyer, Wayne Roth, said: "This lawsuit is strictly allegations. Frankly, I think it's absurd. He didn't coerce Mr Harrison."

Harrison's estate also claims a magazine story about Harrison's death, which featured Dr Lederman's son holding the instrument, was orchestrated by the doctor to raise the guitar's value.

The estate's solicitor, Paul LiCalsi said: "George was literally lying there dying and the doctor forced George to sign a guitar."

Dr Lederman conducted interviews about Harrison just hours after his death, the lawsuit says.

He was fined $5,000 (£2,700) by the US health department for talking to the media about Harrison without his consent.


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Olivia Harrison vs. Dr. Gilbert Lederman

Harrison's estate charges doctor with souvenir-hunting
January 7, 2004
The estate of former Beatle George Harrison has filed a $10 million law suit against one of the last doctors to treat the late rock musician, claiming he violated patient confidentiality and misused his relationship to procure souvenirs.
The suit filed in Brooklyn Federal Court claimed that Gilbert Lederman, director of radiation oncology at Staten Island University Hospital, a co-defendant in the suit, had coerced a failing Harrison to autograph his son's guitar and sign autographs for his two daughters.
It also charged Dr Lederman with using Harrison's treatment to gain publicity for himself and the hospital against the express wishes of Harrison, who died of cancer on November 29, 2001, about two weeks after he had left Staten Island for California.
Harrison was treated for about three weeks in New York.
"Staten Island University Hospital takes patient confidentiality very seriously and has not breached confidentiality," hospital spokeswoman Arleen Ryback said.
The suit claims Dr Lederman "preyed upon Mr Harrison while he was in a greatly deteriorated mental and physical condition by coercing" him to sign a guitar and other autographs as he was being prepared to leave Dr Lederman's care.
Court papers say Dr Lederman visited Harrison with his son and daughters and had Harrison listen to his son play the guitar and then placed it in the former Beatle's lap and asked him to autograph it.
When Harrison resisted, the suit claims Dr Lederman reached out to hold his hand to help him write.
"As far as Mr Harrison being forced to sign the guitar goes, he absolutely and categorically denies that," said the doctor's lawyer, Wayne Roth.
The suit says that after Harrison's death, Dr Lederman gave a story about the guitar to the National Enquirer, which featured a photograph of the doctor's son holding the instrument.
The lawyer representing the Harrisons, Paul LiCalsi, said the family was primarily interested in retrieving what it felt was ill-gotten memorabilia.
"As recently as a few hours ago we gave them the opportunity to avoid this proceeding by simply returning the guitar and the autographs," Mr LiCalsi said.
"We even offered to give him a replacement guitar and the doctor refused."

Beatles doctor faces £5m lawsuit
January 8, 2004
The family of George Harrison have filed a £5.5million lawsuit against one of the last doctors who treated him - accusing him of forcing the late Beatle to sign autographs as he lay dying.
Harrison's widow Olivia and son Dhani also complain that Dr Gil Lederman violated patient confidentiality by giving media interviews - against the family's explicit wishes - about the musician hours after his death from lung cancer.
The papers filed in Brooklyn Federal Court claim that Lederman, director of radiation oncology at Staten Island University Hospital, pushed Harrison into signing his son's guitar and two autographs for his daughters a fortnight before he died in November 2001, aged 58.
Olivia Harrison contacted Lederman, who wears cowboy boots and is said to have a gift for self-promotion, after surfing the Internet as Harrison's condition deteriorated.
The cancer had spread from his lung and throat to his brain.
Lederman was said to have achieved startling results in previous cases by bombarding tumours with concentrated doses of radiation.
But it was too late to save Harrison's life and the ex-Beatle decided to spend his final days in California.
Before he left, says the lawsuit, Lederman 'preyed upon Mr Harrison while he was in a greatly deteriorated mental and physical condition by coercing him to sign a guitar'.
According to the court papers: 'Dr Lederman took the children into the room where Mr Harrison was bedridden and in great discomfort. Dr Lederman had Mr Harrison listen to his son play the guitar. Afterwards he took the guitar and put it in Mr Harrison's lap.' Harrison was then asked to sign the instrument for Lederman's son Ariel, now 14, and cards for his daughters Sarah, 18, and ten-year-old Eve.
When he was unable to oblige, Lederman was said to have told him: 'Come on, you can do this', and helped him write his name by holding his hand. Harrison was reported to have said: 'I do not even know if I know how to spell my name any more.'
Asked how details of the guitar incident were obtained, the Harrisons' lawyer Paul LiCalsi said: 'There were witnesses - a friend of Mr Harrison's and a nurse.' Both have been earmarked as future witnesses in the case.
The New York state Health Department last year reprimanded Lederman for giving interviews about Harrison without his consent, for which he paid a £3,500 fine.
In addition, Lederman is accused of posing with his son and the autographed guitar in an American magazine shortly after Harrison's death - a move which the singer's estate says was designed to increase the value of the instrument.
Mrs Harrison, 55, and Dhani, 26, are also asking for possession of the guitar and the two autographs as well as $10million in damages. Mr LiCalsi said his clients were mainly interested in retaining some important memorabilia.
'I've never heard of more reprehensible behaviour by a doctor. George was literally lying there dying and the doctor forced George to sign a guitar. The doctor should not be permitted to profit from this behaviour.
'As recently as a few hours ago we gave them the opportunity to avoid this proceeding by simply returning the guitar and the autographs. We even offered to give him a replacement guitar and the doctor refused.
'It's been devastating for the family. Not only did it make George's last days a great ordeal for them, but they're left with the prospect of these items being bought and sold for years,'
After Harrison's death, Lederman gave interviews in which he said the musician had faced death in a 'quiet and dignified' manner.
'He did not fear dying because he believed death is a birth, that life continues after death.'
Lederman has 20 days to respond to the lawsuit and there will then be a period of discovery in which both sides produce evidence and take depositions from the witnesses. If no settlement is reached the case could go for trial in the Brooklyn Federal court by the end of the year.
The doctor's lawyer, Wayne Roth, said: 'This lawsuit is strictly allegations. Frankly, I think it's absurd. He didn't coerce Mr Harrison. As far as Mr Harrison being forced to sign the guitar goes, he absolutely and categorically denies that.'
Harrison left his UK estate, worth £99million, in trust to Olivia. She also received the rest of his fortune, estimated to be a further £100million, including homes in Hawaii, Italy and Switzerland, and the rights to several of his songs.
Harrison's will stipulated that Dhani would receive his fortune on Olivia's death.

Harrison estate, doctor settle guitar dispute
January 16, 2004
NEW YORK (AP) -- The estate of George Harrison has settled its lawsuit against a doctor it accused of coercing the dying ex-Beatle into signing a guitar belonging to the doctor's son.
The guitar "will be disposed of privately" and Harrison's estate will give a new guitar to Ariel Lederman, the 14-year-old son of the doctor who treated Harrison for cancer two weeks before his death, according to a joint statement read aloud Friday in federal court. No further details were available.
The settlement came 10 days after the lawsuit was filed against Dr. Gilbert Lederman, his three children and his employer, Staten Island University Hospital.
"George Harrison's music spoke to the heart and soul of my generation," said Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis, who presided over the settlement. He said the agreement "preserves the dignity and protects the privacy of all concerned."
Harrison, 58, died in November 2001 after battling lung cancer and a brain tumor.
Two weeks before his death, the lawsuit alleged, Harrison was coerced by Lederman into signing autographs at a house near the Staten Island hospital. Lederman directs the hospital's radiation oncology department, which is known for treating large tumors with high doses of radiation.
Lederman entered uninvited with his three children and had Harrison listen to his son play the guitar before asking the musician to sign the instrument and two cards, the suit charged.
It alleged that the musician tried to resist, saying, "I do not even know if I know how to spell my name anymore."
Lederman held Harrison's hand as the musician wrote his name on the guitar "with great effort and much obvious discomfort," according to the suit. The estate sought possession of the guitar and the two cards.
The agreement prevents all parties from commenting on the dispute or its settlement. It stipulated that it does not indicate wrongdoing by Lederman, his children or the hospital.

Parece que no fue el mejor médico que elegir... :O

BEATLE DOC LOSES $5.5M SUIT
May 14, 2004
The doctor accused of forcing a dying George Harrison to autograph his son's guitar was hit yesterday with a $5.5 million malpractice verdict.
A Staten Island Supreme Court jury awarded the money to Robert Lo Primo, 44, who claimed that Dr. Gil Lederman's use of pinpoint radiation worsened a neck tumor condition similar to "Elephant Man's Disease."
Lo Primo, a Staten Island carpenter, said the radiation hardened the surrounding tissue and as a result, he can breathe only with a tube in his neck. Lo Primo's lawyer, Steve Samuel, accused Lederman of using his client as a guinea pig.
"He had no idea, no experience, no expertise and no scientific basis to establish that there was any proven benefit to a person with this disease," Samuel said. "There were many known risks, but no known benefits."
Lo Primo said, "I was ripe for picking. I hate surgery. I wanted an alternative."
Lederman's lawyer, Andy Garson - who had argued that Lo Primo's problems came from a pre-existing condition - said trial judge Joseph Maltese had granted his request for a hearing to review the verdict and the size of the award.
In January, Lederman was slapped with a $10 million suit by Harrison's estate, which charged that as the Beatle lay dying at Staten Island University Hospital, the doctor coerced him into autographing an electric guitar.

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Que ser más vil y despreciable, me duele mucho imaginar la tristeza de George cuando ésto sucedió y no dudo que el muy infeliz médicucho de pacotilla hasta fotos le haya sacado....

Olivia, por qué estaba solo mi George....POR QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEE???? :'( :'(
A love that should have lasted years...
Paul.....marry me!!!!

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No creo que pueda añadir algo que no se haya dicho ya de ese maldito.
¡Pero que furia! :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@

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